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		<title>Comment on Policing Illegal Image Usage: What You Can Do by Greg</title>
		<link>http://blog.fotolibra.com/?p=802&#038;cpage=1#comment-8924</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 18:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being in academia myself, I can assure you that the origin of photographic material in dissertations is one of the many things that student tend to ignore.

Most supervisor will feed homework, reports and other such article through plagiarism detectors and they rarely come back clean. These detectors do not check for graphics yet but I am sure it will come one day. Hell, even graduates and research staff tend to be problematic (it is not rare to find PhD supervisors using their student&#039;s work as their own in journals).

But to me this has nothing to do with theft (the original is still there and the original web page it came from still show the image) or even the so called &quot;intellectual property&quot; (a term I absolute hate). Whether it is some text or an illustration, using such thing in your own work is not theft. It is inappropriate in an academic environment since you are being evaluated on it and therefore, using somebody else&#039;s work as your own (or not attributing it properly) is basically akin to lying.

The main problem is that most of the time people do not realise that what they are doing is not appropriate and teaching a student to properly cite is a hard task because it is usually overlook at the undergraduate level. Expecting Joe Random to do so is quite unrealistic and getting angry/offended/legalistic about it, is not going to solve anything.

It is really an ethic problem and an education problem. These days, with the Internet and its huge amount of information freely available instantly, it is not surprising that some people are surprised when faced with part of the internet that isn&#039;t.

Personally, I have always considered that if I do not want people to use my stuff without authorisation (be it source code, publication, photography ...) I simply don&#039;t put it online. You can try as hard as your want to stop people for using online resources, but with the way the technology works, you are fighting a losing battle. The simple fact of viewing an image on your browser means that you already have made a copy of said image locally on the machine being used to view it. I am always amused by flickr allowing its users to block viewers to access the image link, when it only takes a few seconds for someone vaguely technical to get it anyway. The only thing you can do to minimise the impact is to only put online a reduced/watermarked version of your work for people to see. If they then use that, then at least all they have is a &quot;crippled&quot; version which cannot really be used in anything that actually matters. But once again, this is not theft. Copyright infringement is not theft.

One can also use some Creative Commons type licenses (http://creativecommons.org/) for the preview photos, for which you can specify different restrictions (no commercial use, no modification, with attribution). This is something I have mentioned a long time ago as alternatives or additions to the royalty free license available on fotolibra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being in academia myself, I can assure you that the origin of photographic material in dissertations is one of the many things that student tend to ignore.</p>
<p>Most supervisor will feed homework, reports and other such article through plagiarism detectors and they rarely come back clean. These detectors do not check for graphics yet but I am sure it will come one day. Hell, even graduates and research staff tend to be problematic (it is not rare to find PhD supervisors using their student&#8217;s work as their own in journals).</p>
<p>But to me this has nothing to do with theft (the original is still there and the original web page it came from still show the image) or even the so called &#8220;intellectual property&#8221; (a term I absolute hate). Whether it is some text or an illustration, using such thing in your own work is not theft. It is inappropriate in an academic environment since you are being evaluated on it and therefore, using somebody else&#8217;s work as your own (or not attributing it properly) is basically akin to lying.</p>
<p>The main problem is that most of the time people do not realise that what they are doing is not appropriate and teaching a student to properly cite is a hard task because it is usually overlook at the undergraduate level. Expecting Joe Random to do so is quite unrealistic and getting angry/offended/legalistic about it, is not going to solve anything.</p>
<p>It is really an ethic problem and an education problem. These days, with the Internet and its huge amount of information freely available instantly, it is not surprising that some people are surprised when faced with part of the internet that isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Personally, I have always considered that if I do not want people to use my stuff without authorisation (be it source code, publication, photography &#8230;) I simply don&#8217;t put it online. You can try as hard as your want to stop people for using online resources, but with the way the technology works, you are fighting a losing battle. The simple fact of viewing an image on your browser means that you already have made a copy of said image locally on the machine being used to view it. I am always amused by flickr allowing its users to block viewers to access the image link, when it only takes a few seconds for someone vaguely technical to get it anyway. The only thing you can do to minimise the impact is to only put online a reduced/watermarked version of your work for people to see. If they then use that, then at least all they have is a &#8220;crippled&#8221; version which cannot really be used in anything that actually matters. But once again, this is not theft. Copyright infringement is not theft.</p>
<p>One can also use some Creative Commons type licenses (<a href="http://creativecommons.org/" rel="nofollow">http://creativecommons.org/</a>) for the preview photos, for which you can specify different restrictions (no commercial use, no modification, with attribution). This is something I have mentioned a long time ago as alternatives or additions to the royalty free license available on fotolibra.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Could the photos you take for fun make you money? by Peter R. NOBLE</title>
		<link>http://blog.fotolibra.com/?p=508&#038;cpage=1#comment-8922</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter R. NOBLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 10:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received your email, wanting photographs of Russia and downloaded 25 pics of St. Petersburg, checking, downloading and adding Keywords. Then they all went blank? Did they download?
So how can I check if they are now on my fotoLIBRA site?
There is a &#039;deadline&#039; for these pics and I have some that are part of my travels.
Please send me an email on the correct way to send and download my files.
Peter Noble ARPS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received your email, wanting photographs of Russia and downloaded 25 pics of St. Petersburg, checking, downloading and adding Keywords. Then they all went blank? Did they download?<br />
So how can I check if they are now on my fotoLIBRA site?<br />
There is a &#8216;deadline&#8217; for these pics and I have some that are part of my travels.<br />
Please send me an email on the correct way to send and download my files.<br />
Peter Noble ARPS</p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing Illegal Image Usage: What You Can Do by Gwyn Headley</title>
		<link>http://blog.fotolibra.com/?p=802&#038;cpage=1#comment-8921</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwyn Headley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 09:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Naming and Shaming is fraught with problems, and was proposed in a rush of excitement. However I am sure it can be phrased in such a way that attention could simply be drawn to sites using images which display the fotoLibra watermark. We will come up with something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Naming and Shaming is fraught with problems, and was proposed in a rush of excitement. However I am sure it can be phrased in such a way that attention could simply be drawn to sites using images which display the fotoLibra watermark. We will come up with something.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing Illegal Image Usage: What You Can Do by Gwyn Headley</title>
		<link>http://blog.fotolibra.com/?p=802&#038;cpage=1#comment-8920</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwyn Headley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 09:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We positively encourage search robots (&quot;bots&quot;) to crawl all over the fotoLibra site picking up whatever they can. Remember every keyword on every image is searchable by Google and other search aggregators, which is why fotoLibra&#039;s site ranking is so much higher than any other company of similar size. And everything on the site is of course watermarked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We positively encourage search robots (&#8220;bots&#8221;) to crawl all over the fotoLibra site picking up whatever they can. Remember every keyword on every image is searchable by Google and other search aggregators, which is why fotoLibra&#8217;s site ranking is so much higher than any other company of similar size. And everything on the site is of course watermarked.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing Illegal Image Usage: What You Can Do by Gwyn Headley</title>
		<link>http://blog.fotolibra.com/?p=802&#038;cpage=1#comment-8919</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwyn Headley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 09:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, you started all this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, you started all this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing Illegal Image Usage: What You Can Do by Gwyn Headley</title>
		<link>http://blog.fotolibra.com/?p=802&#038;cpage=1#comment-8918</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwyn Headley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 09:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well to be fair Chris it was my explanation and not Jacqui&#039;s, but that&#039;s OK, you always addressed the ladies first. Your mother&#039;s renowned botanical drawings would be safe — the originals could not be stolen, but the watermarked Previews could.
We would really like to sell these for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well to be fair Chris it was my explanation and not Jacqui&#8217;s, but that&#8217;s OK, you always addressed the ladies first. Your mother&#8217;s renowned botanical drawings would be safe — the originals could not be stolen, but the watermarked Previews could.<br />
We would really like to sell these for you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing Illegal Image Usage: What You Can Do by Julian Jackson</title>
		<link>http://blog.fotolibra.com/?p=802&#038;cpage=1#comment-8917</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 07:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this method of tracking unauthorised use is a good one.  So is Tineye.  

However, I would caution against &quot;Naming and Shaming&quot; on a UK site.  UK defamation law is so cockeyed that the infringer could threaten to sue you (and your ISP) for defamation.  He or she never will because the costs are gigantic but your Server company will immediately pull the item from the server and possibly threaten you with your site being taken down.  I have a non photographic site about a local campaign www.notmo.org.uk that this has happened several times so we had to move the site to Icelandic hosting where they defend free speech.

If you find this a ludicrous situation, support the Libel Reform Campaign http://www.libelreform.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this method of tracking unauthorised use is a good one.  So is Tineye.  </p>
<p>However, I would caution against &#8220;Naming and Shaming&#8221; on a UK site.  UK defamation law is so cockeyed that the infringer could threaten to sue you (and your ISP) for defamation.  He or she never will because the costs are gigantic but your Server company will immediately pull the item from the server and possibly threaten you with your site being taken down.  I have a non photographic site about a local campaign <a href="http://www.notmo.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.notmo.org.uk</a> that this has happened several times so we had to move the site to Icelandic hosting where they defend free speech.</p>
<p>If you find this a ludicrous situation, support the Libel Reform Campaign <a href="http://www.libelreform.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.libelreform.org/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing Illegal Image Usage: What You Can Do by Mike Mumford</title>
		<link>http://blog.fotolibra.com/?p=802&#038;cpage=1#comment-8916</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Mumford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 22:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just typed my name (Mumford Books) into Google Images. You, try doing the same, you will be pleasantly surprised to see so many mini adverts, at no advertising costs to yourself. Each image is linked back to your web site, or associated sites. Google states &quot;Images may be subject to copyright&quot;. I think this means because images are already in the public domain they are &quot;FREE&quot; for them to trade in? They are by nature in low resolution, so why worry.
If you require protection even from Google you have to &quot;Watermark&quot; everything on your web site. It just means Google still advertises your images, the main benefit is your image is less likely to be re-used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just typed my name (Mumford Books) into Google Images. You, try doing the same, you will be pleasantly surprised to see so many mini adverts, at no advertising costs to yourself. Each image is linked back to your web site, or associated sites. Google states &#8220;Images may be subject to copyright&#8221;. I think this means because images are already in the public domain they are &#8220;FREE&#8221; for them to trade in? They are by nature in low resolution, so why worry.<br />
If you require protection even from Google you have to &#8220;Watermark&#8221; everything on your web site. It just means Google still advertises your images, the main benefit is your image is less likely to be re-used.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing Illegal Image Usage: What You Can Do by Bob Crook</title>
		<link>http://blog.fotolibra.com/?p=802&#038;cpage=1#comment-8915</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Crook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 20:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are certain times in your life when you wish you hadn&#039;t mentioned anything. Having read a minority of the comments on here, I wish it even more. 
If anyone thinks by letting there work be stolen they will recognise your name, they are living in &#039;cloud cukoo land&#039;. If that was the case, they would at least give you a credit.
I am very anti microstock, but at least you get a whole 3p an image when it&#039;s stolen, which I supose is better than zilch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are certain times in your life when you wish you hadn&#8217;t mentioned anything. Having read a minority of the comments on here, I wish it even more.<br />
If anyone thinks by letting there work be stolen they will recognise your name, they are living in &#8216;cloud cukoo land&#8217;. If that was the case, they would at least give you a credit.<br />
I am very anti microstock, but at least you get a whole 3p an image when it&#8217;s stolen, which I supose is better than zilch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing Illegal Image Usage: What You Can Do by Gwyn Headley</title>
		<link>http://blog.fotolibra.com/?p=802&#038;cpage=1#comment-8914</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwyn Headley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 18:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on!</p>
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